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Glow For Hope: Sparking Conversation on Mental Health

Mental Health & Chronic Pain with Dr. Debra Muth, ND

Hosts: Kelly Poelker & Delisa Richardson • Guest: Dr. Debra Muth, ND — Founder, Serenity Health Care Center • Category: Chronic pain, mental health, mind–body connection

Chronic pain and mental health often travel together. Dr. Debra Muth, ND, unpacks the mind–body link and shares practical, low-cost tools—grounding, chair yoga, breathwork, magnesium, and essential oils—to ease flares and build resilience.

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What You’ll Learn

  • How chronic pain and mental health influence each other—and why both deserve care.
  • Daily strategies (grounding, gentle movement, breathwork) that cost time, not money.
  • “Low and slow” pacing to avoid flares and build confidence.
  • Ways to cope when pain is invisible to others.
  • Topical and nutritional supports (Epsom salt baths, magnesium, essential oils).

Guest Spotlight

Dr. Debra Muth, ND is a certified naturopathic doctor and founder of Serenity Health Care Center in Wisconsin. Known as a “medical private detective,” she helps patients navigate autoimmune illness, chronic pain, and the mind–body connection. Her upcoming book, Seen at Last, deepens her mission to help people feel truly understood.

Key Quotes

“When somebody’s in chronic pain… the longer it goes on, the worse it gets—the more debilitating it becomes, both physically and emotionally.”
“It’s a sadness—a loss of who we are—and we have to figure out how to navigate life in a new way.”
“Go low and slow. This isn’t ‘no pain, no gain.’ When pain increases, don’t push through—pause and adjust.”
“Don’t give up. If a doctor isn’t listening, keep looking for the person who will. Validation opens the door to answers.”

Resources & Next Steps

  • Serenity Health Care Center
  • Grounding/earthing basics — barefoot time on natural ground 3–5 minutes daily.
  • Gentle or chair yoga; breathwork for nervous system downshift.
  • Epsom salt baths (magnesium), magnesium oil, magnesium malate (consult your clinician).
  • Essential oils for comfort and mood (e.g., lavender for calm, citrus for energy).
  • 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — 24/7 free, confidential support.

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Disclaimer: This podcast does not provide medical advice and is not a substitute for professional care. Always consult your healthcare provider.

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